Collectors & Enthusiasts.

 

This section is devoted to the collectors and their collections – aimed at William Sugg products or connections – but also open to related items which are historically interesting and/or important. Many collectors hold products sourced from a wide range of manufacturers and sometimes this will help us all to understand the development of a particular product. Books literature and general publications have been separated into their own section under ‘Publications’ and are frequently a resource for many of the product sections. Specific museum collections are listed in the ‘Contacts’ section.

Unfortunately, like the rest of us, collectors have only one lifetime! A common problem, therefore, for all ‘private’ collectors is what, eventually, to do with the collection! It is such a personal enthusiasm that even many of the closest family members would not know what to do with the collection if they were to be left with it – and the horror of the skip looms large. Some of the private collectors in this section hold nationally or internationally important collections which are not likely to be bettered by any world class museum. I would like to propose that any collector who wishes to review his options can provide a contact point through this website to allow any private person or public body to consider some, part or all, of their collection for purchase, exchange, gift or even promotion to a more significant status, to ensure that often a lifetime’s diligent collection never goes to waste.

A new category of gas lighting enthusiast prepared to ‘invent’ their own exterior gas lamp has been included in July 2015. Whilst Martin Lawrence would rather I called him ‘Alternative’ I think just plain ‘Enthusiast’ covers it much better! This sort of ‘invention’  requires a special sort of knowledge as well as great skill as amply demonstrated in his section below. Just look at what he has used – but do remember that this is NOT something for the amateur – Martin has worked for British Gas and, although not ‘Gas Safe’ registered he is clearly no amateur. You will also find a remarkable refurbishment job he did to a collection of bits of a Veritas upright street lamp (a bit like an Upright Rochester) he bought on eBay. Look in ‘Other Manufacturers’ and under Veritas to see the ‘before and after’!


Ara Kebapcioglu – Paris, France

In order to kick start this section I have been given permission to show a number of pictures of products from the collection of Ara Kebapcioglu – everyone calls him Ara! He is the proprietor of a wonderful little shop in Paris called Lumiere de l’Oeil located at 4, rue Flatters, 75005, Paris. As the name of the shop translates to “Light of the Eye” you can imagine that this is a super specialist lighting shop carrying lots of gas lamps many of which are ‘in gas’ as they say. If you are interested in interior gas lighting this shop is a must! Many of you will be relieved to know that Ara speaks many languages fluently, including English of course! As you might suspect he has a fantastic website which is also listed in the ‘Contacts’ section. http://lumiara.perso.neuf.fr/lumiara/

He is intimately connected with a publication called Gazette AFEGAZ which is published regularly with articles on the history of gas and gas appliances – mostly in French but occasionally with a translation! The AFEGAZ website is also in ‘Contacts’

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Early Flame Shapes

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Sugg Argand Burner with Two Circles of Holes in the Steatite Head

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These pictures are claimed to be a Cromartie fixture. Whilst they certainly have similar features, the fixture feels too ‘crude’ for the true Sugg fixture!! If you look at the Sugg catalogue pictures in the Cromartie section – you will see the comparison. It does however illustrate the shape of the flame.
Doubtless this discussion will continue!

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Picture from ‘Ara’ for Gazette AFEGAZ

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Collector – Bristol, England

I had the pleasure of talking to a collector who lives in Bristol. He was born in the town although he has a Scots background and he remembers his mother lighting the gas and being sufficiently frightened but also intrigued by the ‘pop’ of the ignition that he would watch from behind the door through the crack by the hinge! When he moved back to the house he now occupies he was walking past an antique shop and spotted a lovely wall bracket with a nice piece of green glass. On a whim, he went in and bought it! The rest is history and he now has 31 fixtures ‘in gas’. He has given me permission to show you the selection below.

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Probably the most unusual and maybe the oldest piece is the pendant immediately above. This is a classic open flame burner which was designed to be ‘parked’ up against the ceiling during the day and swivelled down to operate at night. This one is also telescopic and the whole idea is to bring the very modest light source down to a more usable level often necessary with high ceilings. (The extra pair of chains passing through the ceiling operate a remote lever cock as a non original safety device.) The telescopic arrangement was always dubious as the sealing was achieved with a cork seal which would frequently leak! In this case the seal has been changed for a more suitable modern material.

I am hoping to get some pictures of the lamps actually running as it adds a lot to the story.


Phil Ellis – Llangollen, North Wales

Phil says:

“I’ve been interested in gas lighting since I was about 10 years old, fascinated by the Sugg Rochester and Littleton lamps that were still in situ around 1976 on Pwllheli railway station. Unfortunately these went circa 1978.”

“I’ve been collecting gas lamps for about 27 years, initially at auctions locally. I discovered that many of the chapels of  the Presbyterian Church of Wales that have sadly closed, have their original Victorian and Edwardian fixtures still in situ, particularly in the Welsh speaking chapels and I’ve been able to obtain fixtures before the salvage yards have been called in. This also explains why I have a lot of fittings in pairs (one either side of the pulpit)”

As you will see this is a really superb collection across the range of gas wall brackets from decorative to converted early swivel upright and even a gas bracket that has been converted to take an oil font. It is a particularly notable collection for its original glassware that came with the fixtures – not put together after the event. CS

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The first two fixtures show a swing bracket with a Nico No.21 burner and unusual ribbed globe with part obscured top and a double swing bracket which may be a conversion of an earlier single swing upright bracket or maybe it was built like this in the early days of inverted mantle burners, making use of existing parts. This is one of two matching with Nico No 20 Shell burners.

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Single decorative bracket with small burner and delightful pink globe. The right hand bracket is an upright with what Phil  calls a goldfish bowl shade.

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The left hand bracket is quite a long decorative swivel which is a converted upright with the gas tap in the classic position of the earlier models. This is one of a pair with a two-part shade and Nico 21 twin outlet porcelain shell. The right hand bracket is also a classic upright swivel bracket with its original three glass support arms and decorative etched glass shade.

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The three arm pendant fixture has Nico Shell No.15 burners and is mounted in the hall. The right hand bracket is one of a pair of decorated swivel wall brackets with half white opal globe.

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The left hand bracket was originally gas but has been converted to hold an oil font. The right hand photo shows another converted swivel upright onto which a two part shade and early inverted burner has been fitted.

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Finally we have a delightful swivel wall bracket with an upright burner that looks rather like an argand burner.

 

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Ray Tye – London, England

And now, quite possibly the most comprehensive collection of (particularly interior) gas lighting and associated items in the UK! Not only that but also a major collector of early electric lamps (light bulbs to many of us) and several other items that generally lie outside the remit of this website!

Ray Tye has been collecting for many years. He is now retired but held the enviable post of archivist to the Phoenix Insurance Company, providing him with a huge resource of information. Only a few years before these pictures were taken he moved his whole collection from one address to another – no mean feat even if the items had not been installed – and he is now threatening to move again! Each move has been accompanied by a small reduction in the collection. On the last occasion he decided his collection of gas street lanterns was simply too large to re-house and had to find new homes for them. There are many Sugg items but the beauty of a general collection is the pure comparison that can be seen across the whole range.

These pictures were taken during a visit in April 2005 and Ray tells me that he has sold a few items and that duplicates and the less important items are available.

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Loft Space Collection!

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Gas Burners and Light Bulbs!

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A Pair of Live Open Flame Swivel Brackets

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Three Arm Pendant and another Swivel Bracket
both of which are gas fixtures adapted to electricity

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Mantle Collection – Boxes and Tubes
Dozens of manufacturers produced and boxed mantles
– including William Sugg with his ‘Sugg Stronga’

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William Sugg Float Governor Burners (and two by Peebles!)

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Half round ‘Back Lamp’ – Grosvenor Type with 2 light No.2 Gas Burner.

Whilst some collectors concentrate on one single item and others on a specific sector, Ray Tye has both related and un-related collections. His collection of electric lamps (bulbs) is quite possibly the most important collection of its type. He has many duplicates and even several hundred traditional carbon filament type lamps which he wishes to sell. If anyone is interested in learning more specifically about these items, Ray can be contacted on rg.tye@btinternet.com (new email address 2011) Ray and his collection of light bulbs were mentioned in an interesting article in The Guardian on collecting light bulbs which can be read at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2007/jan/14/alternativeinvestment.observercashsection

Finally, in 2014, Ray told me that he had managed to get his collection of lamps (bulbs), mentioned above, re-housed by The National Trust in the most apt of locations, ‘Cragside’, the first house to have electric lighting, an excellent result for such an important collection.

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Maurice Wilkinson – Sheffield, England

Maurice Wilkinson’s Sheffield Hotel which only closed to guests a few years ago, is a unique illustration of one mans’ enthusiasm for gas lighting. The hotel was formed from two adjacent houses and, now that one is to be sold, I took the opportunity in June 2008 to visit Maurice and photograph the fixtures before they were removed prior to sale. Maurice believes that if the fixtures were to be left in-situ any new owner would simply scrap them whilst ‘modernising’ the house so he would rather pass them on to another gas lighting enthusiast than lose what is fast becoming a unique facility. I am sure you will agree that he is right!

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The Living Room has two twin candle wall brackets, two different table lamps and a two arm pendant which is not shown here – all in gas!

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These two very different wall brackets above illustrate the eclectic mix of fixtures that Maurice has fitted in his hotel over the years. The one on the right is an original upright open flame swivel bracket fitted with an inverted burner as so many fixtures were converted when the technology changed.

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There are a pair of these modernistic ‘spaceship’ fixtures with 3 lt superheated burners manufactured by Falks Stadelman and known as ‘Pool’ fixtures. They are operated by remote control with permanent pilot ignition. See further down.

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The gas table lamp, above, manufactured by Nico, is lighting a picture of Maurices’ father who was a senior manager in the electrical industry!

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This handsome table lamp is a Sugg ‘Millbank’ ‘Desk Pillar’ No.2160 with non original fringed opal glass shade but it does have the original twin superheated piloted burner and, like the other table lamp is fed by a flexible gas supply tube.

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More of the eclectic mix of brackets. The impressive brass wall bracket on the right is one of a pair of Sugg ‘Oxford’ artistic flambeau fixtures No.2197 in the hall. With a 3lt No.1 burner they give an excellent light. £5.12.0 in 1936!

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On the left is a Sugg ‘Elite’ burner with lever cock, permanent pilot and vitreosil heat proof glass in the bathroom.

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This great statuette, originally with an open flame burner, was rescued by Maurice and modified into an inverted burner fixture now mounted on the stairway.
I was assured that Maurice had a spare glass for the Sugg ‘Corridor Backlamp’ on the right, which still worked just fine!

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Gas lighting extends to the outside privy and to several Sugg exterior fixtures of which the one on the right is a 6lt Rochester

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On the left, in a recessed box with hinged lid by the front door, is the control wheel for the DCD (Distant Control Device) that was originally used to control the street lamp at the end of the drive, below. The set of 3 tumbler switches include the controls for the Falks ‘Pool’ fixtures above.

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The Globe lamp by the front door, operated by a CCS (Central Control System) was manufactured by Sugg Lighting, as was the Grosvenor at the end of the drive.

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Bob Pawsey

I have tucked Bob Pawsey in here because he was the enthusiast who secured the fixtures from the half of Maurice Wilkinson’s house mentioned above. You will recognise the Falks ‘Pool’ fixtures in this picture.


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You can also tell that Bob is a gas lighting enthusiast when you get to his front door! In the picture following you see a pair of late Sugg Back Lamps that he managed to find and refurbish. More information on these fixtures is included in the section on Back Lamps.

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Dieter Bruening – Essen, Germany.

Collectors are also restorers as beautifully illustrated in the following pictures of his 2 lt Rochester provided by Dieter Bruening of Essen. Anybody who has tried to restore either the Littleton or the Rochester will know that they were never really intended to be dismantled, especially the later ones that use diecast aluminium rings like the one shown bottom right. Most copper lanterns use brass screws in their assembly so this is what was used to hold the body parts to the ring. Fine when the ring was brass but the corrosion that occurs between aluminium and brass often makes it impossible to remove the screws without cutting off the heads and drilling out and re-tapping the thread. Doubtless the early brass rings were replaced by aluminium for economy – but you try taking one apart! Well done Dieter!

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The Littleton below belongs to David Sandell and is also shown larger in the Rochester & Littleton section with a fuller description

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Brian Pocock – Cornwall, England

I am very sad to advise that Brian died on 30th September 2015.

Brian Pocock is an enthusiastic collector of gas lamps of all sorts, the majority of which are Sugg but his engineering talents have been put to work on adaptations such as using American soft mantles in place of the now very expensive Indian hard mantles. Brian lives in Cornwall and makes regular visits to the USA where his wife has a practice and retains a house which has also gained some gas lighting. This is a selection of his projects:-

Brian first contacted me having obtained a ‘Back Lamp’ with the label Murray & Co., Glasgow, which had a 2lt Sugg gas burner that had been butchered to make into an electric fixture. He wanted to fit it with a replacement gas burner for LPG so I recommended a 2lt burner from the Sugg Lighting Victoria Back Lamp but he actually added a 3lt burner! The result was excellent as you can see below but proved hard on the glass! Eventually the original 2lt Sugg conversion burner was refitted:-

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The Windsor below is an original Suspension or Cradle model with large ‘oak leaves’ or ‘ears’. It has a nice porcelain reflector and Brian has fitted an upright burner with time clock. His non original suspension may have to be replaced as the wind had caused mantle breakage through excessive movement!

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Below is a nice square section tube swivel wall bracket and on the right is the view of the three burners of the ‘Regent’ lamp which predates the superheater of the Rochester & Littleton lamps.(qv)

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Below is a refurbished 1 lt Littleton with pilot and an ‘upright’ burner mounted as a table lamp

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Three more ‘table lamps’ below. Interesting temporary application of a double swivel wall bracket and in the centre a nice support for a Sugg ‘Elite’ burner.

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Proper application, below, of the double swivel wall bracket with upright mantle and a swivel wall bracket with lever cock and chains and permanent pilot.

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Sugg 1548 cast aluminium ‘Indoor Back Lamp’, below with another ‘table lamp’ and ‘the summerhouse with gas lighting.

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Welsbach ‘Kern’ gas fire and a closer view of the lit Sugg Bon Marche lamp with non original glass lowered a little, nicely demonstrating the reflector effect particularly suited to high ceilings, producing a lovely soft light.

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Brian’s collection currently includes from Sugg, 4 Littletons, Surbiton, Westminster, 6 Bon Marche, Elite, 1548 Back Lamp, Windsor suspension, Regent, 6 lt Rochester. Several non Sugg and mongrels AND as he says
1 moderately tolerant wife and 1 very happy propane supplier!

Here are more pictures of a further selection of Brian’s gas fixtures – mostly Sugg but one Foster Pullen street lamp and noticeable use of soft mantles. Brian says that these mantles have been very reliable although he has had to increase the gas rate somewhat.

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In many respects Brian could be considered our first ‘Specialist’ as he has certainly ‘invented’ some new lamps but I think even he would agree that Martin Lawrence who you will find below does have just an edge when it comes to constructing a gas lamp from all new components including items from supermarkets!

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Dorron Harper – Keighley, England

Dorron Harper has been a gas lighting enthusiast for a very long time and had the foresight to take photographs of the many lamps that he has ‘watched’ over the years.

Most of his pictures are of lamps from more northerly based manufacturers than William Sugg. This was largely the inspiration for the section called ‘Other Manufacturers’ where he kindly agreed to allow me to add the pictures – along with his descriptions – to the site, both for posterity and to show the wide range of lamps and manufacturers whose products lit the streets in the 19th & 20th Centuries.

His other ‘claim to fame’ is that he has been the gas lighting expert at the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway since 1983 where the majority of the lamps ARE Sugg!

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On the left is a slightly drunk Windsor in Ulverston ‘still working September 20th 1972’ and, on the right, a Camberwell in a wall bracket ‘Kendal 5th November 1967’.

The last picture below shows a pair of restored Alder & Mackay “Hurricane-proof lanterns on the bench.

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Now do go to Other Manufacturers to see many more of Dorron’s photographs.

 

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Martin Lawrence

As mentioned in the introduction to this ‘collectors’ section at the top, Martin Lawrence is another sort of gas lighting enthusiast – but one with a super skill and, although this is not intended as a guide to making your own gas lamp – indeed Martin points out that he is not Gas Safe registered nor takes any responsibility for people copying his approach – he wrote an article for the now defunct North West Gas Historical Society in 2009 on how to make a working gas lamp! In fact the pictures that follow are much more recent (2015) and show a wonderful disregard to convention whilst an absolute regard to the basics of gas lamp design and production to produce two different lamps that he has named after the shops/supermarkets from which particular components were sourced!

The first one, below, he calls his B&M lamp and says “It is made from a steel lampshade bought in a B&M store, plus aluminium pan for the cowl and Half Litre Pyrex dish for the glass globe!” But you can also see what care has gone into the internal structure that follows in many respects that of the Rochester and Littleton lamps – so it should work!!

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Note the ‘Pyrex’ glass bowl! Whilst ideal from the point of view of heat resistance being made of borosilicate and of course so cheap by comparison with the tiny quantity production used to make the standard Rochester bowls, it does not have the traditional drainage hole! Martin says “I feel that pyrex bowls are the future as they can be picked up in most supermarkets between £1.99 and £4.50.  The downside is that there is no drain hole in the ‘globe’ bottom and on wet days the lamps are not totally watertight and the bowl can fill with water, but it does evaporate quite rapidly when the lamp is turned on!”  (Note it is not possible to drill holes in this type of glass as it would shatter into millions of pieces. The original glass has the hole put in during production. C.S.)

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And what about the Martin Lawrence ‘Sainsbury’ Lamp below!

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Martin says: “The one I finished last week (July 2015) is my ‘Sainsbury’ lamp made from a Sainsbury stainless steel mixing bowl, stainless pan and other bits and pieces.” 

He continues: “As I was finishing off the Sainsbury model (shown with correct globe) the globe (6050) came up on ebay for £20 to buy.  I bought it there and then and it fitted with a modified support ring.  The globe had seen a fair bit of use during its lifetime but for some reason one night last week after I’d switched it off, it self destructed and was in bits in the morning. A replacement is now required!

You can also see another example of Martin’s skill in the ‘Other Manufacturers’ section under Falks Veritas. Here he transformed a complete wreck of an Upright lamp into a handsome  operating gas lamp again. Veritas made a number of both suspended and Upright models that ‘ape’ the Sugg Rochester sufficiently closely to confuse the uninitiated. To be fair that did include me as well when I first came across one! Obviously the enormous success of this range of Sugg lamps was going to tempt some manufacturers to copy the style and this one is really quite close. I will add more details to the Falks Veritas section in due course to show you the differences.

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Oil Hand Lamps by William Sugg

There is one section that should perhaps be included within ‘Collectors’ but at present has its own section. Railway hand lamps are currently included under ‘Lighting’ as ‘Oil Hand Lamps’ so if that’s your interest see if there is anything you can add, others have already!


If anyone has any suggestions, wishes to be included in this section, or to make any proposals related to this section, please reply via the form below.

Copyright © Chris Sugg 2006-13

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11 comments on “Collectors & Enthusiasts.
  1. John Maxwell says:

    I accidently ran across your site and thought they were for sale! I live in the United States and I am remodeling my house. My wife and I have gas piped into the house and we have a gas fireplace and we are wanting to put gas lights over the fireplace but I cannot find any for sale that are reasonably priced I can find custom ones selling for $500-$800 (US dollars) that are large enough to heat our house. I am wanting small ones for light and ambiance. Do you know of any sources that sell new working lights or reproduction useable ones?
    Thank you,
    John

    • Chris Sugg says:

      Hello John, sorry for delay in responding. The big difference between UK & USA when you talk about gas lamps is that most people in the USA think of a gas lamp as a ‘flame’ whereas in the UK we think of it as a ‘mantle’. Most of the USA manufacturers fit a gas jet in their lanterns which simply burns, facing upwards, with a flickering flame and it is very much for ‘effect’. Here in the UK gas lamps are still used for ‘light’ in historic locations as well as providing a means of lighting in some houses that are well off the main supplies. To achieve this the burners are usually inverted – pointing downwards – with a gas mantle that ‘incandesces’ brightly when a flame touches the fabric. This is many times more efficient at producing light than an ‘open’ flame and thus uses far less gas and produces far less heat.
      I will send you a typical picture of the sort of traditional ‘swan neck’ brass wall bracket that I have made for people occasionally so you can see if it would be of interest.

  2. Dear Sirs,
    I am trying to find out when pre-cast concrete electric lampposts were first used on Southern Railway stations? I know from personal experience that London SR stations were equipped with them in the 1950’s but would like to be sure if they were also used in the 1930’s.
    Are you aware of any source which could confirm the date/period please?
    Thank you for any help you can offer!
    Sincerely,
    Peter Fleming

    • Chris Sugg says:

      Sorry for delay in responding. The most famous name in pre-cast posts is of course Concrete Utilities. There are many of them shown on this site supporting the Southport and London lamps. There are even several pictures showing them being installed on London Bridge. Go to http://williamsugghistory.co.uk/?page_id=102
      Simon Cornwell has an informative site which I am sure includes CU
      Bob Cookson is also a very knowledgeable enthusiast. Both are mentioned in my ‘Contacts’ section under ‘Lighting Enthusiasts’.
      My pictures with CU posts all date from post war but someone is sure to know the definitive answer! There is a website on Concrete Utilities and they claim to be the originators.

    • Peter Rivet says:

      I think the Southern Railway “gallows” concrete column for gas and electric lighting originated some time around 1930. In an attempt to be self sufficient they established a concrete batching plant at Exmouth Junction, just outside Exeter and this turned out not just lighting columns but fence posts, platelayers’ huts and the like. The GWR used columns of a very similar design but if you look at pictures of them some of the details are different.

  3. Craig says:

    Hi
    Not sure wether anyone can help but I have a Windsor Gas light in “as new” condition with an original Australian Gas Light Company post/pole. Built almost 20 years ago by my Father & never installed , this Beautiful Copper Gas light has been wrapped/ boxed its whole life.
    Would anyone know of a possible interested person in Australia or anywhere that may wish to purchase it ?
    Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but I’ve just stumbled across it while researching
    Cheers.
    Craig

    • Chris Sugg says:

      Hi Craig,
      So this is a lamp made by your father 20 years ago to the Windsor design? The Sugg Windsor was made in 3 sizes, 14″, 16″ and 18″ nominally for 1lt, 2 or 3lt and 4lt. There are particular features of the original Sugg Windsor which are specific to the lamp so your Father would have to have known every detail especially for a gas version. I guess it is unlikely to leave the country partly because of its size! I think your best bet is a local advertising medium – and don’t expect too much there were tens of thousands of Windsors manufactured. Frankly I should put it up in your garden and enjoy it yourself especially if its on gas. Regards, Chris

  4. Dan says:

    Hi,
    I am looking to buy period lamp lighter’s tool that would be have been used in the UK in the 1930’s. Particularly Sugg lamp lighter’s torches. Does anybody know where I could buy them?
    Regards.
    Dan

    • Chris Sugg says:

      Dan, This is hardly an item that you can buy off the shelf but we did make some replicas at Sugg Lighting many years ago now and there might just be one available. There were several different types of lamplighters torches and the one we made has to be fitted to a metal or wooden long handle with a rubber squeezy bulb and small tube to provide pressure to the bottom of the torch to squirt the fuel up past the small lit burner within the head so producing a jet of flame to reach the mantles which are normally turned on by using the torch which is then passed up through the lighting port in the base of the lamp. This could be either a lamp with mantles or much more often an open flame burner. Lamps with mantles soon had permanent pilots so only needed to be switched on by opening the gas tap and subsequently the use of the clockwork controller entirely replaced the lamplighter whose job reduced to one of pure cleaning and maintenance! Chris
      You can see one on the home page where the green plaque was being unveiled on the 200th anniversary.

  5. jacqueline says:

    hello, i have 2 big tall brass gas lamps, that have been converted to elecctricity, would it be ok to send pics?? ive been researching for ages (how i came across this site) ?? x

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